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Living Walls and the Perils of Public Space, Part II

Written By Cinqué Hicks on January 17, 2013 in OPINION

Protester in Pittsburgh neighborhood. Photo by Dustin Chambers

Artists sometimes slip up when it comes to placing art in communities. But that doesn’t let communities off the hook. When do communities go too far? This is the second of a two-part article on the subject. Part I appeared in the pages of BURNAWAY last week, accompanied by some intriguing commentary from our readers.

The recent dustup over Roti’s Allegory of the Human City mural isn’t the only such controversy to ruffle feathers in this country. It’s not even the first for Living Walls. Last fall, a Living Walls mural in Chosewood Park by Argentinean street artist Hyuro that depicted a woman shedding her clothes met with confusion, disdain, and outrage resulting in a formal request for its removal. Beyond Atlanta, street art powerhouses Os Gêmeos created a mural in Boston depicting a figure that was said to look too much like a terrorist. One in St. Paul was decried for its depiction of two bears looking suspiciously amorous. And in 2011 a mural on the outer wall of LA MOCA by renowned Italian street artist Blu was famously painted over, before the first peep of outrage, because director Jeffrey Deitch feared the mural might cause offense to someone somewhere someday.

Os Gêmeos, The Giant of Boston, 2012, mural at Boston’s Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy Greenway

Efforts to restore mural in Pittsburgh after vandalization. Photo by Dustin Chambers

Back in Atlanta, Allegory was finally painted over after a fierce turf war on December 11 by the Georgia Department of Transportation, which has jurisdiction over the 240-foot retaining wall. The mural’s destruction took place despite a promised community forum that was to bring together pro and con constituencies sponsored by the neighborhoods’ city council representatives. As of the time of this writing no such forum has occurred.

Allegory‘s naked torso, fish scales, and alligator head caught Roti in the bear trap of the public’s idea of what art means. But the swift and silent way in which the mural was finally destroyed likewise highlights how limiting, perhaps even toxic, the idea of “the community” has become in its modern guise. According to several press accounts, opinions among the residents of Pittsburgh were split at best and, at worst, those opposing the mural may have been a minority, albeit a vocal and powerful one. But all of that complexity, with all of its potential for nuanced interpretation, was wiped away with the monolithic coat of gray paint that “the community” allegedly demanded.

In one the most heated controversies over public art in recent memory, Hyuro’s mural in South Atlanta was painted over shortly after last year’s Living Walls celebration. Photo by Dustin Chambers.

Sociologist Richard Sennett described this sort of conundrum in his influential analysis of the public sphere, The Fall of Public Man. With the social roles of modern life constantly in flux and in turmoil, Sennett wrote, “the community”—whatever and wherever one thinks that is—has become the one place where we insist on being ever our real selves, safe and unchallenged. Even the family doesn’t provide that sanctuary for many people in the modern age. So we’re always on the lookout for signs that someone else may not really belong. Everyone is constantly testing everyone else, and the price of failing those tests is excommunication. “Fraternity,” wrote Sennett “often becomes an exercise in fratricide.”

That’s why those who speak for this or that community are almost always the most strident voices. They are the voices least likely to be confused for an outsider’s. In other words, whoever speaks for the community is whoever’s most “down” with the cause at hand. And the easiest way to be the most down is to take an extreme position—to insist that a mural be erased utterly with no conversation, no public debate, or conversely to insist that the work remain just as its artist intended it no matter who it offends. Both are extreme positions that grow out of the sense of belonging to a community that’s clear on who’s “one of us” and who’s not.

Stefan Hirsch, Justice as Protector and Avenger, 1938, Charles E. Simons Jr. Federal Courthouse, Aiken, South Carolina. This Works Progress Administration mural was the subject of controversy due to its modernist style and the image of justice characterized with dark skin and exposed feet. Image reproduced courtesy of the Fine Arts Collection, United States General Services Administration.

Historically, the race to out-down the next guy has proven especially vexing in matters of public art. In the 1930s controversies over public murals were both more frequent and more acrimonious than anything this country has since experienced. In that decade and through the culture wars of the 1980s, pleasing the community often meant appealing to its loudest and most conservative voices. A single strident no could outweigh a thousand yeses.

Street art is the newest guest at the table of public art, and as such Living Walls now finds itself on the receiving end of that pitiless please-the-public-or-die logic. Joining guerilla-style street art with sanctioned public art makes for a strained marriage. Street art is often illegal and anonymous. It answers only to its own artistic vision. Public art, on the other hand, is often at its best when undertaken with the deep involvement of surrounding neighborhoods.

Roti, Untitled mural, 2011. Image courtesy of the artist

Roti has been typical of an old-school street artist: throughout his early practice, none of his work in the public spaces of his native France was sanctioned or asked for. He needed answer only to himself and his own aesthetic impulses. That practice of willful self-determination, however, carries a baked-in tension with communities that may otherwise have their own priorities and aesthetics. As the two worlds merge, that tension is likely to become more and more evident.

The tension is unsustainable. In each case something’s got to give. In one scenario, the street artists will begin to think of their work less as their own expression, and more as a collective expression that may include views of the world quite different from their own. The alternative is that we dismantle the idea that a community should be a safe place where one’s most fundamental truths are never challenged. The first option runs against some of the most cherished notions of how an artist should function, and the second runs counter to the way communities have come to function. This impasse isn’t likely to be dislodged anytime soon, and the resulting turf wars of meaning and interpretation are likely to be constant companions.

Roti, Untitled mural, 2011. Image courtesy the artist

In an ideal world, a skirmish such as the one over Allegory would produce more than just a clash of ideas; it would serve as an exercise in getting along in a democratic society.

Every modern person in a pluralistic democracy such as ours must constantly question what he or she assumes to be true about the world. Every cosmopolitan, multi-cultural society in modern history has developed some culture of healthy doubt, and the US is no exception. Doubting our received beliefs is what allows different races, different religions, and those of different political viewpoints to avoid all-out war and, occasionally, even live in something approaching harmony.

The opposite of doubt is certainty. And it’s certainty—the belief that no legitimate explanations for the world exist outside one’s own—that marches soldiers onto battlefields and flies planes into buildings.

In a much less dramatic arena, it’s also the impulse to plug our ears and refuse to believe that a piece of public art could have very different meanings within the fabric of daily life depending on the texture and history of each life.

Protests in Pittsburgh neighborhood. Photo by Dustin Chambers

When a few residents in the Pittsburgh neighborhood caught wind of Roti’s admittedly baffling mural, the logic of certainty quickly took hold on all sides. The battle lines were drawn and genuine openness to doubt became impossible. What should have been an opportunity to encounter new ideas and new ways of seeing the world instead became a series of tribal calls-to-arms to defend this or that community.

That’s why the cancelation of the promised neighborhood forum to discuss Allegory is the true tragedy here. Without the public outlet as a first step to hash out opposing ideas, anyone involved in the debacle can instead walk away convinced of their own righteousness, secure that no alternative explanation of the situation was possible. For the life of a democracy, an enforced silence around the mural is far worse than all the noise and fury the mural sparked in the first place.

The art world isn’t the only place where people fracture into self-enclosed juntas. It isn’t hard to see the same dynamic increasingly at work in our electoral politics. When someone disagrees with us politically, the past decade has shown that we’re more likely than ever to misunderstand each other.  When these arguments happen, we don’t simply assume that the other person is under the sway of wrong ideas; we assume that they must be the wrong kind of person. Not just mistaken, but evil. No wonder we have no language of compromise. When you’re certain of your own rightness and equally certain of your opponent’s evilness, compromise always looks like selling out.

Political tribalism didn’t start with public art and won’t be solved by public art. But if we can’t use it to work out a vocabulary of compromise, a language of productive disagreement, then all the controversy will have been a waste. Public art won’t save democracy, but it may at least remind us how easy democracy is to lose.

This concludes the second installment of Cinque Hicks’s two-part article, “Living Walls and the Perils of Public Art.” Join the conversation and let us know what you think!


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  • Kwajelyn Jackson

    Balanced and brilliant!

  • Andrew Alexander

    Another well-done, thought-provoking piece, CH. But I disagree strongly with some of the arguments presented here…

    I can think of plenty of examples of public debate in which openness to the other side is not conducive to building a better, more pluralistic society, but is in fact regressive.

    Legal segregation was once a hotly contested issue in the South with two opposing sides. But could one really describe both sides of that issue in this way? “The logic of certainty quickly took hold on all sides. The battle lines were drawn and genuine openness to doubt became impossible. What should have been an opportunity to encounter new ideas and new ways of seeing the world instead became a series of tribal calls-to-arms to defend this or that community … No forum to discuss the matter was the true tragedy. Anyone involved in the debacle could instead walk away convinced of their own righteousness, secure that no alternative explanation of the situation was possible.”

    This would be a specious explanation of that conflict, and the false equivalency in conflating both sides in a contentious public debate is pretty apparent. In that moment, one side was right, the other wrong. Period. Simply pointing out that both sides had strong opinions at variance with each other would have been a cop out, an unwillingness to really consider the issues at play, mistakenly suggesting that the strongly-held, conflicting opinions on both sides were the source of the conflict and that more openness on both sides would therefore have been the solution.

    While the planned forum certainly should have taken place and perhaps it might have even led to a more positive outcome, one should also be aware that there are conflicts which arise in public life which are due to anti-democratic ideas on one side which are completely immune to persuasion or reason. I would argue that when one side says that women shouldn’t vote or that murals are Satanic, these are examples of such cases. And simply saying “they’re ALL just strongly-held viewpoints” is a non-helpful non-starter.

    In such cases, there is no “sky-hook, bird’s eye” point of view. Not all viewpoints are equally conducive to democratic practice. In such cases, you must get in there, take sides, and argue for the sort of society you would like to live in. One can argue for the relative merits of each side, communal practice, or ethos, I suppose, but the heart of the matter is that no one has yet made a convincing argument as to the merits of allowing art to be destroyed because someone believes it’s Satanic.

    Is one side more conducive to the practice of democracy? Is one more capacitating than the other? Limiting? I start there.

  • Jane

    A very good article above. I have lived in CV for 40 years. The oppressive tactics of a number of council people, preachers, politicos, etc. isn’t a new thing. I don’t believe for one moment that these folk who proposed a meeting had any intention to follow through. This behavior was more backward oppressiveness. Yes, Roti’s mural was baffling, but as someone said to me recently, “You don’t have to like a piece of art to appreciate the message.” Something like that.
    I am a writer and have drawn much inspiration from around me all these years. Upon seeing the destruction of this mural a poem came to me: “Snakes in the ‘Hood.” The behavior by the people who destroyed this mural was slimy. But not, unfortunately, baffling..
    Jane Kohut-Bartels, CV

  • http://www.facebook.com/cinque.hicks Cinque Hicks

    Do we want a world in which there is a chance to work out compromises on thorny issues, or do we not want such a world? If your argument is that you can think of specific historical cases in which a shouting match wins the day, then you can go ahead and do that. But would you legislate that as the basic mechanism by which problems are solved in society? If so then you have essentially institutionalized ideological warfare. You’ve made it not the exception, but the rule.

    In the particular case at hand, people all around fell into what has become the default logic of “community,” which requires an ironclad belief in one’s own ideological perfection. I argue that the first step to a way out is to consider for a moment that there may be other stories there, ones that take some unpacking and translation to figure out. And I would will that that process occur for everyone. You seem to have heard that as “Unilaterally give up everything you believe in,” but I meant no such thing.

    The question you ask about “allowing art to be destroyed because someone believes it’s Satanic” is the wrong question. The question is whether the mural should have been installed there in the first place, and if so under what conditions? That’s a reasonable question to ask and you can make persuasive arguments either way. But I’d encourage you to look at the history of Pittsburgh and surrounding areas and the ways in which historically people with power have come into that neighborhood and made unilateral changes without consulting the people who lived there, or made promises that were broken in quite dramatic fashion. Those changes led to real people losing families, homes, and jobs. That really happened. And it’s a very fresh wound. When yet another massive thing appears seemingly from out of nowhere, it’s a signal toward other things that did happen in the past and could easily happen again.

    The folks opposing the mural used the language of religion in order to express that opposition because the symbols lined up in a way that gave that reading valence (see Part I of my article). But don’t get distracted by the language; the larger issues at stake are all questions about community writ large, for both good and ill.

    A quick word about desegregation: that was a massive demonstration of multiple opposing sides working through the issue through all kinds of civil discourse over the course of nearly a century. When you say that one side was right and one was wrong, who are you talking about? The Garvyites? Booker T. Washington? The DuBoisians? SNCC? The KKK? Moderate southern congressmen? The Black Panthers? And by the way, you can find many intelligent, reasonable people of color today who would tell you that integration has been disastrous for African American culture. To say that the gradual dismantling of segregation didn’t involve an ongoing process of assimilating a huge variety of viewpoints is an almost grotesque distortion of history. Being open to doubt means being available to self-examination in light of all the facts at your disposal, something that Dr. King, for example, spent a lot of time doing. It doesn’t mean being adrift in a sea of moral relativism.

  • evan

    The question of whether the mural should have been installed is really about the process of ” community” involvement in owning the public sphere- correct? What if the Pittsburgh community had approved Roti’s mural in the most fair and democratic process imaginable but a couple of opportunistic leaders under the guise of religion covered it? It could be argued that the history of Pittsburgh community’s hardships and victim hood are not just the result of outsiders stepping in but also of false prophets within there own community selling them out and leaving them further disenfranchised. (There are people who live there who support the mural even without the process).

    The real question for ATL artists is why twice in one year were images erased. If you want to discuss community writ large and disenfranchisement one could also make the argument that the ATL arts community’s disenfranchisement from the larger community created both victims in Pittsburgh. If cultural intrusions into the public sphere had been a mark and measure of ATL successful growth over the last 30 years perhaps Doug Dean’s leadership would not be the face of Pittsburgh. What if Pittsburgh had a real leader who stood up to this kind of nonsense and welcomed diversity of aesthetics in their environment? Is Doug Dean providing the kind of leadership beneficial to the people of Pittsburgh? Has he made Pittsburgh a better place because he organized removing the mural? If you want a world where people constructively work through thorny issues through reasoning then you have to meet the threat of those who think otherwise.

  • Andrew Alexander

    I certainly never advocated that there should be a world without compromise or debate, or that all issues should be decided by shouting match.

    “people all around fell into what has become the default logic of “community,” which requires an ironclad belief in one’s own ideological perfection. ”

    I never fell into the default logic of “community.” I didn’t mention the term. I don’t purport to speak for any particular community. And I never feel that any communal or personal viewpoint is ideologically perfect. However, some viewpoints are, in the end, more democratic and less faulty than others, whether they’re held individually or communally.

    “The question you ask about “allowing art to be destroyed because someone believes it’s Satanic”

    There was no question there. That was a statement.

    “The question is whether the mural should have been installed there in the first place, and if so under what conditions?”

    The fact that the mural’s installment should have been better vetted has been so firmly established that I no longer feel the need to mention it in every post. Once the mural is there, the question becomes: Is it an acceptable response to vandalize it if you think it’s Satanic? Is it acceptable to have GDOT paint it over? How should the individual citizen respond to such actions and such terms of debate?

    “A quick word about desegregation:”

    My point was about legal segregation, and this was specified quite plainly in my post, and yes, there were and are two clear sides. There is no nuanced middle ground regarding the legality of segregation. Either you feel segregation by race should be legal or you think it should not be.

    One side was anti-democratic and not conducive to a good society, while the other was. Around those two positions, there may have been many nuanced arguments about how best to proceed, what the complicated effects of desegregation might be etc etc, but in the end, one did actually have to pick a side about its legality because segregation cannot be both legal and illegal, just as a mural cannot both exist and not exist.

  • AA

    All well put, evan

  • Casey Lynch

    So Roti’s work was removed because of a lop-sided, illogical decision making process? How many public spaces have been inhabited/invaded by art/graffiti because of solipsistic/anarchistic decisions made by individual street artists? In a way, street artists are getting a taste of their own medicine.

    Further, to AA’s post below; not to get overly philosophical, but in a way, all this controversy has made Roti’s image exist more than it did before – so in its non-existence, it exists (simultaneously)…

    One last thing, pot is legal in Colorado, but illegal in the USA, of course Colorado is in the USA, so it is both legal and illegal…

  • Andrew Alexander

    This whole incident has given me a new appreciation of museums.

    The poster “evan” put the questions at the heart of this issue so succinctly, it’s hard to improve on them.

    “What if Pittsburgh had a real leader who stood up to this kind of nonsense and welcomed diversity of aesthetics in their environment? Is Doug Dean providing the kind of leadership beneficial to the people of Pittsburgh? Has he made Pittsburgh a better place because he organized removing the mural? If you want a world where people constructively work through thorny issues through reasoning then you have to meet the threat of those who think otherwise.”

  • casey

    I don’t disagree that Evan’s point is valid, I’m just pointing out the irony of the fallout that happens when street/graffiti art gets defaced, and suggesting there is some justice in this incident when viewed through that lens. When Roti, or any other artist makes unsanctioned public pieces, that person is guilty of acting in the same fascist way that Dean, and those who erased this image, did.
    So why does Roti’s current work deserve a democratic trial, when so much of his other work didn’t (as a result of his acts)?
    Maybe I am being specific when the points above are more general, but I am doing so because I feel like this is not the best instance to start generalizing from. Regardless, of the generalizations made, I feel that Cinque makes a strong argument for what could/should guide future prognostic discussions, and I see Evan’s point as being inline with it.

  • Andrew Alexander

    Thanks for your thoughtful comment, Casey.

    I have trouble seeing much justice in the incident. It just seems really sad for everyone involved.

    I think evan’s argument actually stands apart from other voices I’ve heard, which is one reason I admire it.

    And in my opinion, forming a group to go vandalize a work is not the appropriate corrective to a perceived problem in its placement process. There’s not a work of art anywhere that someone couldn’t object to somehow, so saying that destroying it is a fair, just and democratic response seems problematic to me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cinque.hicks Cinque Hicks

    I’m not sure that anyone who’s weighed in on this debate would claim that vigilante buffing is the best of all possible responses to an unwanted mural any more than you would claim that moving forward without sufficient community buy-in is the best possible scenario for placing public art.

    The more relevant question for me is what kind of template can we create moving forward for how very different people with very different points of view can coexist in a pluralistic society. Simply saying “Right is right and wrong is wrong. And I of course am right” isn’t good enough. It’s philosophically indefensible and tactically unworkable, because unsurprisingly everyone involved will think exactly the same thing. Worse, when such attitudes are aligned with disproportionate power, history has shown us that the outcome is oppression of one kind or another.

    Note that this objection is NOT, NOT, NOT the same thing as saying all truth claims are equally valid, all opinions are of equal weight, or that any old kind of discourse should have equal airing in the public sphere. I am claiming that when all parties start at absolute certainty, you have nowhere left to go. You’ve already cranked the dial up to 10, and any real productive dialog is impossible.

    Desegregation is really too big a ball of wax for this debate. It can of course be both legal and illegal and remains so to this day, because segregation is not one law or one thing. It’s a network of laws, regulations, rules, and codes, some of which have segregation as their intended mechanism, some as their intended effect, many more as their UNintended effect, some as mere accidents of history, some that may or may not segregate but the effects are so subtle that it’s open to debate, some that were not segregationist but became so when demographics changed, etc., etc. That’s why issues of racial segregation are still so thorny. To claim that it’s a simple binary right/wrong issue simply isn’t reflective of the historical complexity.

    I, too, think that some of evan’s points are illustrations in line with what I was trying to communicate in the article–the problem of a few loud voices (what he calls “opportunistic leaders”) hijacking the discourse for an entire community.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cinque.hicks Cinque Hicks

    One problem here is that we’re conflating doubt with compromise. I tried to argue in my piece–not clearly enough–that productive doubt is a necessary precursor to compromise, not that they are the same thing. It would have behooved me to be clearer on that. Doubt clarifies your relationship to a truth. Compromise is what comes AFTER that in cases where it makes sense as a reasonable followup. But one has to go through that trouble–the doubt–because the alternative is that preconceived notions fill the vacuum. You believe something, well, just because you’ve always believed it. The other word for that is prejudice. I’m arguing that in a general sense, the logic of community has come to erode our faculties of productive doubt. I’m arguing for the necessity of self-interrogating doubt BY ALL PARTIES in any civilized society. Compromise is an aftereffect.

  • Andrew Alexander

    Thanks for the response and the ongoing discussion.

    Witch-burners and those who don’t think it’s appropriate to burn witches are two communities that both believe they’re right. Yet it’s a situation in which I’d feel perfectly justified asserting “Right is right and wrong is wrong. And I, a non-witch-burner, am right.” The witch-burners would think they’re right, too, of course, but opposing them is far from “philosophically indefensible and tactically unworkable.” I would even argue that taking the ‘middle ground’ in such a situation, as if you have some bird’s eye view from which you see the two opposing ideas as equally contestable, is the position that’s ‘philosophically indefensible and tactically unworkable.’ “Productive doubt” would be an odd value to urge on those who are arguing against the burning of witches.

    “when all parties start at absolute certainty, you have nowhere left to go.”

    Possibly. But sometimes nowhere left to go is where you are. If I am stuck in a room with a witch-burner, we are, in fact, two parties starting at absolute certainty, in disagreement, with nowhere left to go. And that’s just what it is. Having someone there urging doubt on me would be of little help.

    “Desegregation is really too big a ball of wax for this debate.”

    Perhaps. As I said in that post I can think of lots of other examples, and witch-burning is one. When the other side is anti-democratic–there are demons in this art, the Holocaust never happened, I like to own slaves, these witches must be burned, my teddy bear hates Methodists, women shouldn’t vote, blacks must sit apart from whites etc etc–it seems incumbent on the individual citizen to say, “No. This is wrong. The alternative is right.” Even if the ensuing fuss is inconclusive and leaves nowhere left to go and leads to nothing more than the opportunity to say “I disagree,” it is imho still important in these instances to take a side.

    (And in my opinion, in some of those historical examples, resolve–not self-doubt–on the part of those who argued the enlightenment, democratic ideals was the value that won the day).

    “segregation is not one law or one thing”

    Legal segregation has been dismantled. It is now against the law to segregate public facilities by race, whereas in the 1950s it was legal. Segregation may still exist in some cultural forms etc etc but it is now illegal to use the power of government to require blacks and whites to use separate facilities. I’m referring to this past practice when I’m referring to “legal segregation,” and the phrase is pretty commonly used in that way.

    And the law cannot be used to both segregate and desegregate a bus at the same time. The practice of requiring, by force of law, blacks and whites to separate can actually be only one thing or the other, legal or illegal.

    “That’s why issues of racial segregation are still so thorny. ”

    I hardly thought it would be thorny to point out that segregationists were wrong and those who fought against legal segregation were right, and I’m surprised to find that it’s become the subject of contention here. Desegregating buses, water fountains, lunch counters, restrooms, and schools by law, I thought, had been universally identified as a democratic, social good by modern people, which is why I settled on it as an example.

    Anyway, if you feel legal segregation is still too thorny to illustrate the point, I’ve chosen another example–witch-burning–above, and I hope we can both agree that not burning witches is better than burning witches in an uncomplicated, unthorny way. We can leave segregation aside and pick up this other example if you prefer.

    Anyway, in the end, I think the residents of Pittsburgh have many righteous claims about historic injustices, probably more than can ever be counted. But the claim adopted by a vocal minority of residents and a tiny handful of political opportunists, “There are demons in this painting, and it must be destroyed,” is simply not one of them.

    Self-interrogating doubt is indeed a wonderful value to have, but in some instances such democratic values are almost entirely weighted to one side. It was only one side in this debacle which claimed to be representing god’s will on earth in a battle against evil. I saw self-examinations, mea culpas, doubt, and a willingness to discuss emerge almost entirely on the other side, from those who placed the mural and valued it and wanted it to stay. I even wonder if perhaps the artistic community should have shown less doubt and more resolve and unity in standing up to such terrible extremism.

    I still stand firmly in opposition to religious fundamentalism and political hucksterism when it’s aimed at destroying art. It is possible to examine two claims, to examine your own position in a spirit of productive self-doubt, and still decide that one side is right. And it’s perfectly fine to be certain and wrong in a democracy, it’s when you take certainty in your own hands by force that it becomes a problem: destroying the art is a more substantive issue than the the perceived procedural errors of living walls.

    And again, anyone is free to argue the other side and try to suggest the merits of destroying art because someone thinks it’s demonic–I will listen and, who knows, perhaps I’ll even re-examine my resolve–but no one has yet even attempted it.

  • Casey

    One last note: In the first part of this series, Cinque alluded (perhaps too subtly) that Roti was ignorant of the environment in which he was expressing himself. He used a personal set of signs in a space where the signs were to be misunderstood. If you secretly, personally thinks that “fire” means “bravo,” and go shouting “fire” in a crowded theater, YOU ARE in the WRONG. To be more concrete, you may have noticed people became self-conscious of saying “that’s the bomb” after September of 2001, especially when in an airport. (And anyone not familiar with Kool Keith may be unaware that a half-shark-alligator/half-man is not the devil, but a superhero.)

    So, it is possible that Roti’s ignorance was only matched by those who muted his utterance. This dual ignorance is why these articles should be read as prescriptive prophylactics for future public pieces.

  • evan

    I don’t see how in this particular situation with Roti’s mural anyone can be an apologist. The white washing of the mural is probably the most reprehensible thing that has happened in this arts community in the thirty years I have been involved as a cultural observer/ producer. You can make all kinds of observations about the socio-economics/ race/ segregation /religious beliefs of the neighborhood- but I don’t think there is any balanced discussion without pointing directly to the egregious violations of individual human conduct that are criminally , ethically and morally just plain wrong. The Pittsburgh ‘leaders’ who white washed the mural engaged in a despicable act of self aggrandizement. If you want to find a teaching moment here it is not about community art process – lets start with the roots of fascism and general human evil and other types of cancer on the human condition. Stirring up fears then erasing another’s contribution to assume power is basically what occurred.

    This wall sat there until Living Walls and Roti gave it value. Then some political religious assholes (sorry Cinque that’s really who they are) got some paint and rollers and whitewashed it. Then they got interviewed to make themselves even more self important.

    The irony here is the words ” replacement mural”. The people who white washed Roti’s artwork and saved ‘their’ Pittsburgh neighborhood should be recognized. Their portraits should appear in the ‘replacement mural’ writ large like their belligerent act of destruction. To really solidify their public art as battleground accomplishment- perhaps they also need bronze and marble statues dedicated to the white washers who saved Pittsburgh.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cinque.hicks Cinque Hicks

    An observation and a question: evan, your main beef seems to be against opportunistic political leaders with extreme motivations. Please see paragraph 5 of my article above where I say precisely that. So we agree. Awesome.

    Regarding the destruction of art in general, I share your outrage, but where was all this anger when Sol LeWitt’s “54 Columns” was vandalized over and over and over again? Seems like every time that happens a big cheer goes up.

  • evan

    You are being a bit defensive CInque when I really believe your article was filled with sharp observations about the context of public work. My posts were not responding necessarily to your article directly. To be honest I did find it balanced to the point of being equivocal and this seems to have distanced you from some other of your cultural critiques – which had more of an activist stance. I’m partially kidding here but- I hope your not softening up. You have a lot to offer the larger community by being trenchant when it comes to defining a progressive cultural path.

    The Sol Lewitt piece has been a very interesting phenomena since it was installed under a huge amount of controversy even though it is a private commissioned piece on private land. Atlanta has something akin to an art world jewel – the largest outdoor installation by Lewitt – a revered minimalist artist. Yet is completely lost on the community where it was installed. If this sounds familiar it happens over and over again- the Alexander Calder ‘stabile’ in Houston- the Picasso ” ‘poodle’ in Chicago), Maya Lin VIetnam memorial, the Richard Serra on the Federal Plaza. Important public works that were basically hated when they were installed seem to ferment and the initial animosity generated by an intrusion into someone’s environment softens and in some cases the work becomes thoroughly embraced.

    There has been no justice in the case of Roti’s mural (Hyuro’s too ). The images were not allowed to ferment and be discussed- they were wiped clean. Who would want to start over under these conditions? The opportunistic leaders whose ‘outrage’ of an intrusion into their environments further disenfranchised their communities. A growing world class event was halted in it’s tracks by the stupidity of a few. It is not an isolated incident in ATL but a refrain.

    My beef here in ATL has been overcooked to the point of being charred- at some point I hope there emerges a few cultural leaders who don’t fold into the same old mistakes- art is not a fluffy little lap dog that gets scraps from the dinner table of a community but a pit bull yanking on the chains of power and chewing on the legs of those who can make a difference for the progressive betterment of all.

  • Andrew Alexander

    “where was all this anger when Sol LeWitt’s “54 Columns” was vandalized over and over and over again? ”

    The two aren’t really parallel since the LeWitt sculpture is still there. Its possible uses and all its potentialities are still alive, as so beautifully demonstrated by performances there by gloATL the past couple summers.

    “54 Columns” was temporarily degraded not destroyed, so pointing out the more vocal discussions around the Living Walls case doesn’t really highlight any sort of hypocrisy or inconsistency. There seemed little to discuss in the case of LeWitt: One said, “Vandalism is bad” or perhaps some said, “This was thought-provoking,” or some such, but then the new paint was covered over, and the art was restored to how it should have been. If it had been entirely destroyed by vandals–and if there were critics arguing, even obliquely, that such obliterative vandalism was a statement somehow in parity with its installation–I would be quite vocal about it.

    It is still there, but the mural isn’t.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cinque.hicks Cinque Hicks

    Many artists and others in the art community not only didn’t say “vandalism is bad,” they actively suppported the vandalism of “54 Columns”. And the language around the act was quite soft. http://clatl.com/atlanta/public-sculpture-a-canvas-for-conceptual-vandalism/Content?oid=1262309

    Both art works were seen as inconsistent with community ideals. Both were assaulted in ways that nullified the original work. Both art works were then resuscitated by washing off the paint. So the initial incidents were not identical, but quite similar nonetheless. Is it legitimate to ask why one was met with outrage by many in the art community, whereas the other was met with bemusement bordering on glee? If we consider the destruction of public art works reprehensible, why wasn’t there a spontaneous demonstration of outraged art lovers mobilized to wash off “54 Columns”? I’m honestly asking your opinion. I think it’s a legitimate question, which if you’re open to helping me puzzle it out, might yield some useful insights.

    The stories diverge where a few loud Pittsburgh voices dominated the debate and GDOT snapped to remove the mural–permanently, as you point out. That’s an excellent example of what I point out in paragraph 5 of my article; the way in which a few extreme voices end up disenfranchising wider swaths of the public.

  • Guest

    The reason no one has attempted to defend the merits of destroying art for religious reasons is because everyone so far is in agreement that that was a wrong response. You’re asking someone to defend an argument that no one in this forum has made. Indeed in the article, I call removing the mural without debate and discussion an “extreme position.” Casey Lynch above went even further and labeled it “fascist.” That’s pretty strong language.

    Speaking for myself, when I allude to two possible options for this mural with regard to the life of a democracy, the two options I refer to are not (a) destroying the mural vs. (b) keeping the mural. The two options are (a) having a productive dialogue about it vs. (b) not having a productive dialogue about it.

    A productive dialogue could have gone like this: The mural would have stayed up. It would have been discussed, as evan alludes to below. It may have turned out that enough voices in the Pittsburgh community, given a chance to understand it, would have voiced support in keeping it. Or it may have turned out that Living Walls would have come to a new understanding of how people within the community read the symbols on display and voluntarily offered to amend or remove the mural as a bad fit for the community it’s in. Or a dozen other possible outcomes. It’s too late now for any of them. For either to have happened, EVERYONE involved would have had to come to the table with at least the possibility that there might be more to the story than first appeared. EVERYONE would have to meet each other from positions of doubt, not certainty. There was a time in our society when such a thing would have been more possible. Instead what we got was digging in of heels, illegal whitewashing, and some pretty incendiary language.

    The argument I’ve been trying to make is about how discourse should operate in the future, not about any particular outcome for this case, which has already been settled through force.

    What kind of social architecture would be the opposite of unproductive conflict that would work as a general and generalizable template? For me it should not be one based on the extremes of history (e.g., burning witches, the Holocaust), which are always exceptions to the rules. It would be one based on the real, common circumstances we confront every day, which are full of gray areas. Circumstances such as public art.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cinque.hicks Cinque Hicks

    The reason no one has attempted to defend the merits of destroying art for religious reasons is because everyone so far is in agreement that that was a wrong response. You’re asking someone to defend an argument that no one in this forum has made. Indeed in the article, I call removing the mural without debate and discussion an “extreme position.” Casey above went even further and labeled it “fascist.” That’s pretty strong language.

    Speaking for myself, when I allude to two possible options for this mural with regard to the life of a democracy, the two options I refer to are not (a) destroying the mural vs. (b) keeping the mural. The two options are (a) having a productive dialogue about it vs. (b) not having a productive dialogue about it.

    A productive dialogue could have gone like this: The mural would have stayed up. It would have been discussed, as evan alludes to below. It may have turned out that enough voices in the Pittsburgh community, given a chance to understand it, would have voiced support in keeping it. Or it may have turned out that Living Walls would have come to a new understanding of how people within the community read the symbols on display and voluntarily offered to amend or remove the mural as a bad fit for the community it’s in. Or a dozen other possible outcomes. It’s too late now for any of them. For either to have happened, EVERYONE involved would have had to come to the table with at least the possibility that there might be more to the story than first appeared. EVERYONE would have to meet each other from positions of doubt, not certainty. There was a time in our society when such a thing would have been more possible. Instead what we got was digging in of heels, illegal whitewashing, and some pretty incendiary language.

    The argument I’ve been trying to make is about how discourse should operate in the future, not about any particular outcome for this case, which has already been settled through force.

    What kind of social architecture would be the opposite of unproductive conflict that would work as a general and generalizable template? For me it should not be one based on the extremes of history (e.g., burning witches, the Holocaust), which are always exceptions to the rules. It would be one based on the real, common circumstances we confront every day, which are full of gray areas. Circumstances such as public art.

  • evan

    I for one considered the painting of one of Sol Lewitt’s columns pink as being a type of culture jamming that in some ways commented without harm on its existence. I don’t support this but did find it humorous that the masculine, hard edges of Lewitt’s visual liturgy was turned sarcastic Pepto- Bismal pink. If the perpetrators who vanished Roti’s mural had chosen to put pink smiley faces all around it- diminishing the artists intent but also somewhat harmlessly poking at the dark image of allegorical dystopia – then I would have been amused too. I really don’t think the Lewitt vandalism and the ROti erasure are that similar. One was a single artist( It had to be an artist or art interested person) tweaking another the other incident with Roti involved a community organized to destroy art- for very vague reasons. .

  • AA

    Thanks for your thoughtful responses, questions and continuing discussion.

    I imagine there were a thousand opinions on the vandalism of “54 Columns” just as there are about Roti. I’ve heard a wide range of opinions on the Roti debacle. I imagine it ran the gamut in both cases, though 2005 was before I covered arts in Atl, so I didn’t really have my ‘ear to the ground’ about it. On-line opinion, or even an ‘ear to the ground,’ often still doesn’t capture the diversity of opinions out there.

    But I do actually think the particulars of each case are different enough to perhaps explain different reactions from others.

    The vandalism of “54 Columns” was an unorganized surreptitious activity, the type of anonymous “tagging” which public art can be victim to. Roti’s work was defaced by an organized group with a particular political position. If the “54 Columns” tagger had organized a group and rushed in front of the cameras–or insisted that a government agency come bulldoze it–perhaps it might have evoked different reactions from observers. If the Roti mural had been tagged in the nighttime, it seems like it might have inspired sad shoulder shrugs, but not impassioned dialogue. If there had been an organized “Let’s destroy 54 Columns” group, I imagine the response from the artistic community would have been unequivocal and mobilized in firm opposition.

    “54 Columns” was a work placed and maintained by city officials, commissioned by private individuals, created by an artist whom most Atlantans didn’t get the opportunity to meet or see at work. Living Walls is a grassroots organization, one featuring the contributions and participation of many people in the community with fun, community-building activities and events throughout the year and during an annual conference, with the visiting artist here in residency. The level of personal investment and involvement for many was much higher (and the experience was fresher) with Living Walls’ commission.

    The Columns incident took place in 2005, Living Walls was 2012. The city, particularly in the realm of attitudes about public art, has changed enormously in that time, and the public simply might not have been as engaged about these issues. Different reactions might actually be evidence of a very positive change in public attitudes about public art. Roti also took place just weeks after another LW mural was painted over, so the feelings were still fresh, and the concerned public was organized, alert, and aware of how a non-proactive stance could lead to the total loss of a work. Also, social media, which wasn’t as widespread in 2005, allowed people to communicate quickly about the Roti mural.

    In Roti’s case, it was discovered that the rolled on paint could wash off, and it became clear that this would have to happen quickly and with the fast assistance of a lot of people if the mural was to be saved. You can look at the 54 Columns vandalism and realize that it would take the city a $5 bucket of paint to fix the problem, and that this could happen at any time, without any assistance from anyone. The level of urgency in saving the art was not the same.

    And they are, in the end, two different works of art. Some people just might like Roti better than LeWitt. And the fact that the Roti work was totally and finally destroyed doesn’t seem like something that can be easily parsed out when comparing the two different sets of reactions.

    Some observers might imagine the different reactions have to do with cultural politics and that any difference in reaction is likely evidence of some nefarious bias on the part of those who reacted differently to the two events, but I don’t think that’s necessarily the case.

  • Andrew Alexander

    “What kind of social architecture would be the opposite of unproductive conflict that would work as a general and generalizable template? For me it should not be one based on the extremes of history (e.g., burning witches, the Holocaust), which are always exceptions to the rules.”

    Thanks for this. I’ve tried to take some time to think about your excellent question.

    Firstly, for me, witch-burning and destroying art because someone thinks it’s demonic aren’t two distantly removed, incomparable extremes. Rather, they fall into the “too close for comfort” category! (And there are still instances where superstitious mobs enact violence against scapegoated individuals: it is not just in history). The other example I gave in that long list of parallels was not of the Holocaust, but of Holocaust denial, which, sadly, is not a historical extreme at all. It’s a present extreme which, like religious fundamentalism, one might conceivably be confronted with at any time.

    When someone burns a witch, when someone denies the Holocaust, when someone destroys art because they think it’s demonic, the productive starting point is a recognition among reasonable people that this is unacceptable behavior. One should also realize that such actions as those listed above are not the precursors which set the table for democratic dialogue. One should not feel obliged to sit down with extremists and ask: What might I have done differently so that your angry mob wouldn’t have burned my mother as a witch? What can I do differently next time so that my painting won’t be mistaken for harboring demons? How can I sit down and meet the Holocaust-deniers halfway? These are not questions that the open-minded, democratic citizen asks: They’re questions that the citizen who is caving under anti-democratic extremism asks.

    This was an arrogant, destructive, art-obliterating, anti-democratic, superstitious act by a tiny handful of self-righteous hucksters who in no way represented their community, its legitimate claims, or its best interests, and it deserves to be called out as such. Wagging one’s finger at those who placed the mural–who showed themselves at every possible turn as more than willing to sit down and have a dialogue with anyone and everyone at any time–seems a step in the wrong direction. Accepting these few extremists as legitimately representing an entire neighborhood’s concerns seems a step in the wrong direction. Imagining that this tiny handful of fundamentalist individuals can now be inserted into a democratic dialogue–and that this is the only way forward–is a step in the wrong direction.

    Sometimes you just have to recognize that a few bad people have hurled some muck. Telling the person who’s been hit that they now have to sit down and meet with the muck-flingers is not the best template for a way forward.

    The way forward looks like this: You help the muck-covered person up, you take them home, you help them wash off, you give them a nice hot cup of tea, and then you encourage them to carry on. You do this in a very simple way: You encourage them to carry on exactly as they did before, but now with the tough, smart (but hopefully never self-censoring) recognition that muck-flingers are out there.

    This is the general template I propose: We should all get together and fix Living Walls a nice hot cup of tea. We should encourage them to carry on–tougher, wiser, stronger, warier, always open to the legitimate claims of those who will meet them in a fair-minded, reasonable way, more guarded perhaps, but otherwise exactly as they did before. We should always be prepared to fix the victims of political extremism and religious fundamentalism a nice hot cup of tea.

    And I would argue that the template you propose where everyone comes to the table in a spirit of openness and self-examining doubt is the society we already live in, or the one we’d hoped we lived in. It’s the template Living Walls had attempted to enact from the beginning, middle and end of this debacle: it’s the one they believed they were operating in. One side simply didn’t avail themselves of that reasonable template, which is the problem of returning to it as if it alone might be the solution. It saddens me to think of Living Walls beginning next summer by sitting down with art-obliterators and asking: “Now, what sort of painting can we make that you won’t find demonic?”

    In the end, it may be possible that you and I will never agree on a conceptual template that provides a model for the best way forward. But either way, I’m sure we both agree that Living Walls deserves all great things in a wonderfully productive creative future, however it might choose to proceed.

  • Thom Shepard

    technical notes on mural removal:

    Roti’s work was removed because Living Walls did not have legal permission to paint it to begin with. They wrongly assumed the wall belonged to the adjoining property owner, not the GDOT which interestingly built interstate 85/75 thru the SE corner of the Pittsburgh community, and later the interchange expansion that prompted the building of this wall. GDOT rules are explicit and dictate that murals that cause a controversy like this must be removed. Thus because of the poor and illegal placement of this mural even a small minority of people could easily have had it removed.

    The Hyuro mural on Sawtell was on private property. It was painted over by Living Walls because the property owner did not like the controversy. The community had no legal authority to have it painted over unless the city deemed it a traffic hazard, which they had not.

    Similarly the Decatur mural of 2011 that caused such a public controversy (largely because of it’s intimidating size at a prominent gateway on an old historic hotel) remained because it was on private property and their was no law contrary to its painting. Similar to Chosewood Park/Lakewood Heights and Pittsburgh, some residents liked the mural and respected the artists work, but were disappointed they had no input, did not understand how the art work related to their community, or felt the massing was wrong.

    So clearly, legally, the Roti mural should not have been painted in this location without proper approval, which likely would have required public input. While it is sad their was no public debate for the community before it was painted over, it likely would have made no difference.

  • thenewdionysus

    The meeting hasn’t been held because we are in the process of redeveloping our communities. Although to many who live in a passive society and sit and wait for others to do work for them do just that sit and wait… some of us spend our time doing real work and on the streets everyday hoping the bring light to the darkness of what we call blight. Individuals spent hours here making opinions and yet have done no community service and I’m not talking about cleaning up trash on the side of the road or feeding the homeless in your spare time. I’m talking about working with community leaders to make plans that are sustainable and pull their neighbors out of one of the worse economic downfalls our communities have ever seen. They are proposing to build a billion dollar stadium with public funding while families are tossed out on the street. They don’t have money for revitalization but can fly a french artist and spend ten’s of thousands of dollars to paint a mural on a cracking and crumbling wall that should have been fixed. Get your priorities straight and before chastising about a meeting on a crumbling wall. Help find a solution to pull the person next door from falling over the fiscal cliff. There is more to the world that art… LIFE! and this ain’t it.

  • evan

    So let us assume dionysus put in the countless hours working with community leaders and posits that funds spent for the mural and not on revitalization is insufferable. The littleness of Roti’s endeavor compared to the magnitude of Pittsburgh’s problems makes this discussion worthless. Get a LIFE.. huh?

    My question to dionysus is what kind of roller would you use next time you painted a wall in the hood?

    I believe Roti gave Pittsburgh something more than any tool in the hands of community leaders. The fact is the arts contribute more to stabilization and gentrification of neighborhoods. I do agree with you about the stadium. The pathetic thing here too is that technically 1.5% funds for the stadium should be Percent for Art dedicated.

    On a another technical note to Thom Shepard- who did the organized citizens that whitewashed the mural assumed owned the property? Living Walls may have been mistaken who owned the property but these people were organized vandals. . I believe guidelines for a civil society would have them arrested and it is shameful they were not prosecuted.

  • Thom Shepard

    evan,

    Both groups painted the wall illegally. How could GDOT press charges against one group and not the other? It will also be hard to argue that they defaced a work of art when GDOT itself painted over the mural.

    By Monica’s account published on the LW fb page, she had already been told by city officials LW should paint over the mural due to permit issues before it was buffed the first time. It is likely this was also known in the community. By her statement, Monica refused to paint over the wall and LW started a social media campaign to save art work, this is when it was buffed the first time. I am not sure at what point the city or LW discovered that GDOT owned the wall.

    However, whether it was owned by the private property owner or GDOT, that group had no right to paint over it. In resorting to vigilante actions they took the discussion out of the hands of many much more reasonable leaders in the community. Since that point the neighborhood has been identified in articles and discussions mostly by those actions, which is a shame because there is a whole lot more to the community of Pittsburgh.

  • evan

    Thom, your absolutely right in terms of fairness- both parties( Living Walls and Vigilante White Washers ) should have been arrested and convicted. Conceptually this could be appealed by both parties to the Supreme Court to establish some sort of formal civic engagement to the process of ownership of public space in the the public sphere. Discovery and friends of court briefs could establish some First Amendment usage of space in the public sphere. Clearly there exists an unfair advantage to corporations who can establish and buy a visual presence- unlike an individual who has to succumb to oppressive tactics. If the problem had been safety related then clearly the DOT needs to protect public safety. But acting as arbiters of what in essence is “public space” ( tax payer $$$) is clearly a violation of Freedom of Expression. Roti’s mural presented no property damage- Vigilante White Washers – damaged Roti’s work. Having the Supreme Court weigh in is not a bad idea- with the exception it is a Scalia Court- and we might want to wait for a few more Obama Appointees.-

  • Al Matthews

    This seems to me frankly a crucially important point. @facebook-559106559:disqus I’m keenly appreciative of your work here and in particular, at this writing, of your part one. But it seems to me worth attending very carefully, too, to this subtle line of argument.

    Correctly placing the artwork — and what is presumed to be a somehow community-wide response — within the context of the city’s legal mechanics, zoning, and property history — does situate it very much helpfully in the encircling contexts of Atlanta, Georgia, South, property, aggression, and U.S.

    An anecdote. In the course of recent research, I’ve had occasion to thumb through a few volumes of a 41-odd volume oral history, a WPA project called The American Slave: A Composite Autobiography.

    As it turns out, this was a project distorted and redacted _by its editors_ in Texas and Mississippi, and _by its contributors_ in Georgia, to thumbnail that historical discussion very rapidly.

    This erasure, seems to me not quite named here in what I have read, although Cinque did a fantastic job of elucidating its spectres and modes.

    Crucially, it is within this obliterating politics and context — a formalized and legal context — actions both above and below ground — within this that the work exists, is erased, and seeks attention.

    A plaudit for precision then, @thomshepard:disqus .

  • Thom Shepard

    Evan,
    I was implying could have been, not should have been.

    As far as legal precedent for GDOT to control what art is, or is not, painted on walls that they own, I don’t think there is much room for debate.